missing boxes
woodstock
2010-08-25 10:43:10
Definately not putting any more boxes in the updates. Another one of ours has gone missing. A Dartmoor Lane- Miltor
woodstock
2010-08-25 10:44:33
I can't believe someone buy's the update then deliberately goes out and pinches the boxes. Sad person.
Gemma
2010-08-25 14:16:33
What makes you think it is a Letterboxer.? Not sure why one jumps to that conclusion.
Brinnie
2010-08-25 15:15:47
I think what Woodstock is saying, is that someone goes to the bother to buy the 100 club updates just to steal boxes, they are not letterboxers.
Gemma
2010-08-25 18:19:52
Don't think he said that.
but did say ^^^^ that.
Duckpool
2010-08-25 21:57:51
But could it have been a random find for the dlt? I don't know how many listed boxes you have out, but how many have been stolen?
Duckpool
Nik - KOTM
2010-08-26 06:01:21
The DLT has penetrated the inner circles of the letterboxing fratermity there are too many examples of sets of WOM clues having been put out and one goes missing - too many for co-incidence.
What makes it sad is that the DLT will visit the meet and talk to everyone he will go and purchase several charity walks just to pinch one of the stamps. And the odds are I have met the person face to face and would have no idea who it is. Finding boxes by chance and stealing them is cynical, buying the catalogue and updates is malicious
Gemma
2010-08-26 07:07:31
Duckpool
Yes it could & yes it could be a Letterboxer, but.... my point is that it may be a random find by a non Letterboxer.
Yes we have had boxes go missing & it is a gutter.
woodstock
2010-08-26 08:20:21
Hi, it's too much of a coincidence. Some of our boxes have been out for years as WOM. I feel we should support the updates so I put some in there. The ones that are accessable (fairly near the edge of the moor) nearly always go within a few months. No-one would have found our Miltor Lane by chance, not the sort of place you would walk past while taking a dog or the family out for a walk.
woodstock
2010-08-26 08:21:46
I'm not saying that this person is buying the updates, they may just have a so called friend who is passing them on.
Nik - KOTM
2010-08-26 20:24:32
They are buying the updates - believe me - I know they attend the meet to get a lot of the clues for the charity walks
moorland wizard
2010-08-26 21:52:30
did you send your clues out as a wom and then put in the update? just thinking if it was sent out as a wom then maybe process of elimination to find the person.....
Sowerby Streaker
2010-08-27 07:35:19
Doubt very much if we will find him/her/them. Recently a WOM boxer put out a walk around Pupers. Two very well known and reliable letterboxers went out got all boxes and first in book, same day another boxer went around and 2 had gone :x Owner went out and checked, and confirmed both sites empty. None of the 3 letterboxers saw anyone else around. Whoever took them had to have had the clues as they were not 'on the beaten track' and well hidden with no signs of wear. So how do you find out who that was when you have probabaly 100+ boxers in your email list who you thought you could trust :x :x
Fulchet
2010-08-28 20:32:56
It is definitely someone who purchases the updates, otherwise whole walks wouldn't go missing within days of being published, when they'd been happily sat on the moors for weeks before on WOM lists (although as Sowerby Streaker suggests, they've also infiltrated some WOM lists).
Nik - KOTM
2010-08-29 06:16:37
Some time ago I suggested a method to trap the DLT but this would be expensive to one individual, but now, there is more than one theif and they seem to be having some sort of sick competition
Brinnie
2010-08-29 10:43:34
I think letterboxes go missing for various reasons
1. Members of the public just go out and steal at random whatever they can find.
2. An organised person who buys the update and then goes out and steals the boxes.
3. A letterboxer with a grudge against another letterboxer.
4. Wildlife such as foxes may run away with one.
The best way to preserve your letterbox is to release the clues WOM only, hide it well where people don’t usually walk, and avoid areas that are close to the roads.
I also do a bit of geocaching, we are lucky so far on Dartmoor as the caches in this area don’t get too much problems but some places in the UK they are getting terrible trouble. A group of people go out and steal these caches then log they have stolen them all in the name of the environment and gloat how many they have stolen. (They even have a facebook group) The geocachers have been told to report the thefts to the police, and if the person is caught they will be charged.
Seems if a person removed an item knowing that it has been left for someone else to find it is theft.
The Nesty Crew
2010-08-29 17:23:55
It is SO sad reading all these posts about the DLT. It certainly seems that someone with inside information is getting some sick pleasure from ruining the hobby for lots of people. And probably loving reading all these comments about himself/herself.
We are down visiting Teignmouth for the weekend and i have had to notify Dizzy that one of his boxes has "gone". :cry:
And whilst out checking our box this morning, 2 reliable boxes, that have been present along our route for years & are listed in this years catalogue are missing.
I always live by the saying "What goes around, comes around" so lets not give this "person" any more notoriety, and wait for Karma to kick in :evil:
Emma one of The Nesty Crew