TIPS ON SAVING PETROL
Sowerby Streaker
2011-10-14 16:44:37
PETROL TIPS - info!! (MUST READ)
With Petrol expected to reach £2 per litre by end of 2011 these tips that I received from a friend might come in handy.
TIPS ON PUMPING PETROL
I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol.... I am paying up to £1.35 to £1.50 per litre. My line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every Litre:
Here at the Shell Pipeline where I work , we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period .. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 Litres.
Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the petrol, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.
A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low mode, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
One of the most important tips is to fill up when your Petrol tank is HALF FULL. The reason for this is the more Petrol you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. petrol storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the Petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every litre is actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a petrol truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy Petrol, DO NOT fill up; most likely the petrol is being stirred up as the Petrol is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
Gemma
2011-10-14 18:06:26
With Petrol expected to reach £2 per litre by end of 2011 these tips that I received from a friend might come in handy.
TIPS ON PUMPING PETROL
I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol.... I am paying up to £1.35 to £1.50 per litre. My line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every Litre:
Here at the Shell Pipeline where I work , we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period .. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 Litres.
Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the petrol, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.
A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low mode, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.
One of the most important tips is to fill up when your Petrol tank is HALF FULL. The reason for this is the more Petrol you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. petrol storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the Petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every litre is actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a petrol truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy Petrol, DO NOT fill up; most likely the petrol is being stirred up as the Petrol is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.
All good stuff & worth trying.
I guess a better way is NOT TO DRIVE. :D :D
devon steamer
2011-10-14 18:47:43
wow interesting tips,using those tips how much could you save in a full tank???.
Sowerby Streaker
2011-10-14 19:12:21
I don't know but am going to give it a go as I need to fill up tomorrow for a trip to the moors. Coupled with my 10p off a litre coupon hoping I can fill up for under £50 this time :?
Nik - KOTM
2011-10-16 09:14:07
These tips are worth while noting but the best time of the day to fill up is around 8 - 10 am that will be when the tank is at it's coldest.
But the biggest thing we can do is to get onto the suppliers and demand to know why the cost of fuel at the pumps is so high. In the past three months the price of fuel has dropped to BELOW the cost price of fuel before it went above a £1.00 a litre, allowing for tax ises the price should not be above £1.20 a litre anywhere in the country.
The biggest reason why the price is staying artificially high in this country is the lack of complaining by the British public.
On your Tesco reciept there is a section you will find - How did we do? Has anyone used it? I do - frequently - but I am a lone voice, what we need is a combined voice to shout it out.
The government don't give two hoots about price drops, because they are raking in the extra tax generated by these excessive prices, fine you might say, the government will give a windfall tax on the oil companies again.... who do you think? We will with yet higher costs at the pumps.
It's all well and good boycotting Shell or BP - but they are the wrong targets the targets we, as the consumers, is the supermarkets. Supermarkets have always led the price war in any fuel economy....
Rant over
Tamerton Chocolates
2011-10-17 09:09:22
Sorry but hat article is full of urban myths and errors.
For instance the density of petrol hardly changes in the temperature range you talk about (filling up in the morning instead of the afternoon) - even under simple laboratory conditions scientists failed to get even a 1 percent difference in volume. And as the article states - petrol is kept underground - and the temperature really doesn't change there overnight - not even after a bit of frost.
The section about filling up when the tank is half-full is even blatantly wrong. You want your car to be a light as possible. Always driving around with a tank that is more then half-full means you are constantly carrying in excess of 35kg (say a standard tank is 70 liters) which you don't need.
I also doubt that petrol will be £2 within the next 2 1/2 months.
The easiest things anyone can do to save fuel is make sure your car is properly serviced, to inflate your tires correctly, to take off your roof-bars if you don't use them and to not have unnecessary weight in the car.
Nik - KOTM
2011-10-17 20:21:40
So why is it that F1 measures its fuel in kilos and not litres. A litre on a cold day has more calorific value than on a hot day, but a kilo is the same hot or cold!
Sowerby Streaker
2011-10-17 20:56:01
I also doubt that petrol will be £2 within the next 2 1/2 months.
The easiest things anyone can do to save fuel is make sure your car is properly serviced, to inflate your
Tires :roll: Are you American?? We spell it Tyres over here. Lets hope you don't have to eat your words if fuel does reach £2. Could be a close run thing, but probably not before Christmas :wink:
Tamerton Chocolates
2011-10-18 09:58:33
Tires :roll: Are you American?? :
Haha, actually I was using a device that insisted I remove the 'u' every time I write 'ou' and thinks 'ise' should be written 'ize' ...
Tamerton Chocolates
2011-10-18 10:06:40
Not sure .. maybe because the density of petrol isn't exactly 1 kilo/litre .. it is slightly less and I guess in F1 these very small differences matter. Do they actually heat the fuel before sticking it in the car so one would get more energy out of the same amount of fuel?
whoisthechallenger
2011-10-18 10:41:22
No. F1 teams cool the fuel
Weight of fuel, rather than capacity, probably comes back to F1's obsession with minimum car weights and reducing the potential for exotic fuel blends - some of which weigh more - being used, which is against the rules.
But I'm no expert... :)
Nik - KOTM
2011-10-19 06:55:36
The fuel they are supposed to use is what is available on garage pumps... Watch those pigs fly!
The Sly Fox
2011-10-20 13:03:02
* Avoid using the air conditioning. This can add, on average, 8% to your fuel consumption.
* Driving with your windows open will create extra drag resistance for you car.
* Get into the higher gears as soon as you reasonably can. You can pull away in second gear if you are facing downhill.
* Optimum speed for fuel efficiency is 55mph (not in a 30mph zone though, please).
* Don't carry needless items in the boot, this adds extra weight.
Freemans of the Moor
2011-10-20 18:33:53
We have a family member who owns a BMW 4 x4 and drives it on the motorway at a constant 50mph on cruse control as he has calculated from the owners manual this gives the optimum fuel efficinecy (why can't we have a spell check ?). He also never puts on its lights until it is really dark and never indicates his intention of direction as this uses battery energy.
He was overtaken recently by a 3 wheeler, possibly Del Boy ? Even his children said "Dad can we go a little bit faster!"
By the way his last job was earning him in excess of £ 150.000.00 p.a.
NUMBER 70
2011-10-21 18:22:05
I bet he parks across two spaces at the supermarket as well and leaves the wife at home to save on fuel as well
Gemma
2011-10-21 18:29:29
He was overtaken recently by a 3 wheeler, possibly Del Boy ? Even his children said "Dad can we go a little bit faster!"
By the way his last job was earning him in excess of £ 150.000.00 p.a.
uses battery energy :- Nop it does not the alternator supplies the power for the electrics whilst the motor is running. The battery supplies the power when the motor is not running!!!
PS why can't we have a spell check:_
moorland wizard
2011-10-21 19:29:31
or try left share to the moors of walk from the bus stop, lol
The Sly Fox
2011-10-22 19:03:31
:lol: :lol: